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Post by Jenny Guzon Bae on May 22, 2009 4:06:50 GMT -5
Also Jenny, I didn't reveal your identity you idiot. You were the one who decided we should tell Mookie we know each other in real life. YOU were the one who gave him your real msn. YOU were the one who told him what area you lived in. So don't sit here and tell the jury bullshit they don't need to hear. You liar. No Sierra you really have it all wrong! I gave Mookie an msn address that I made up so that we could all talk together and for you two to sort out your issues and fights with each other. This msn address was: sweet_cherry_pie_99@hotmail.co.uk Add me if you want guys! Yes, I did decide to tell Mookie that we knew each other in real life, as you were so keen on doing so! But it was YOU who gave Mookie my real identity and it was YOU who told him my name and where I lived etc. So don’t lie to the jury about it because I even have the whole conversation as proof! After Sierra told Mookie my real identity I was pissed as we were saving this for after the game. And then way after this I added him to my real msn, as there was no point in not doing so anymore and we became even better friends.
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Post by Jenny Guzon Bae on May 22, 2009 4:08:21 GMT -5
OKAY.... responses... sierra you make it sound as though i gave my password to jenny after the merge. it was for two or three days, at F4, after the challenge had been played out and we were waiting for results. she saw a few of my confessionals and a couple PMs. seriously, it didn't give her an advantage at all because she only got to log on to my account ONCE, for a little tiny bit. that kenny identity thing... kenny did i literally tell you that sierra told me your identity? pretty sure i said sierra told me some identities, including one that really bothered me, and that i knew your identity... and i only brought it up because i had signed up for a game at SEG which you are in... and i found it interesting that i knew who you were but you don't know who i am... lol... i didn't get your identity from sierra. that has to be made clear. okay and you DID make jenny give her identity to me. i only got her real identity, her REAL AIM after i gave her that personal letter which, by the way, had that stuff about me being a drug addict before and all that stuff which you then later used to mock me and cut me down to size or whatever? that should have gotten you taken out of the game for personal attacks, brooke... what happened there? you took me out of the game for something stupid but wouldn't take sierra out FOR PERSONALLY ATTACKING ME ON A NUMBER OF OCCASIONS?sierra, that night, on AIM... you forced jenny to give me her identity... yo utold her "lets just tell her, right now, jenny. be honest. tell the truth jenny!" that was what you said, and then she gave in and told me you went to highschool together and that she had the same name as myself and all that. and it was much later that she gave m eher real MSN that her REAL friends use... because we became REAL friends, independantly of you, i might add. and you forced her to do that to get me pissed off so thta later that night you could bring up voting jenny out. and i STILL SAID NO BECAUSE I REALLY REALLY LIKE JENNY AND WOULD NEVER SCREW HER OVER, THE SAME WAY SHE WOULD NEVER SCREW YOU OVER BECAUSE SHE REALLY LIKES YOU. you gotta get that straight. she BROUGHT you to the end, you did not bring her, you did not use her. she used you, if anything. her and i talked about it... everytime you tried to use her she'd weigh the options... the advantages and disadvantages to going your way... it just so happened that most of the time you two wanted the same thing. now... SOMETHING NEW...really quickly... sierra, would you prefer me to be there instead of jessie? would you prefer me to be there instead of jenny? would you prefer ace to be there over either of the two girls? be honest. don't bring into consideration who would win. i just want to know, based on who you like more in this game. because you told me you would want me, in private. i want to see if yo ucan say that in public. and i want jessie to really listen. Thanks for sticking up for me Mookie, but really I can take care of myself! And instead of jury questioning this whole tribal council seems to be just about me! It is quite annoying because I want to have my say in this too, but everyone is fighting again! And Sierra stop giving Mookie grief! We all know that you have been nothing but a complete bitch to him! No wonder he feels the need to say the things he is saying. Also, I never asked Mookie to do that for me, as it is clearly a WRONG thing to do and it wouldn’t be fair for Sierra and Jessie. Although Mookie did ask me if he could do it, but I said no, as I know it wouldn’t be right. Mookie is just talking from his heart and shouldn’t be picked on for giving his personal opinion. And just to let you know Sierra, Mookie was probably lying to you anyways! So I doubt that your evidence is even true!
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Post by Jenny Guzon Bae on May 22, 2009 4:09:06 GMT -5
TO JENNY: 1. jenny, you've told me a number of times that you would prefer me to be on the jury over both sierra or jessie, if it weren't for the fact that i'd have won. who else would you prefer to be on the jury over jessie? and who else over sierra? and don't consider who would win, just who you like. Wait don’t you mean people NOT on the jury? Like the finalists?! I would like to see you and Ace here with me in the finals, if I didn’t have a day 1 alliance with the girls. That would be a really cool final tribal council! 2. jessie seems to think, for some reason, that you wanted me to stop talking to you. she seems pretty sure of herself, seems pretty sure that no one likes me or that you genuinely wanted me to stop talking to you. she's obviously wrong, i know that, but can you tell her to stay the hell out of your business? and make it clear to her that you DO like me, and you are not pleased with her having told me to stay away from you? thnx... that's just for me, because i'm sick of jessie thinking she has me all figured out. Ok then, Jessie stay the hell out of my business! And I like Mookie, we are really good friends! You told Mookie to stay away from me??..... Haha there happy?! No seriously, I asked Jessie in a pm before we were friends that you were annoying me… sending me like 10 PMs a day and that I didn’t really like it. I think this happened just before merger? But anyways, me and Jessie had not talked much until just recently, so maybe she told you something that I told her ages ago?! And she thinks it still applies… but I a telling you now Jessie that if doesn’t still apply. And that me and Mookie are really good friends now! Mookie I would hate it if you stopped talking to me! That would be horrible, and when you were voted off that was like the worse cause I couldn’t talk to you until now. So there you go Jessie… to make it clear to you- Yes, me and Mookie are really good friends! 3. tell everyone here how well you did in your first game, your ONLY other game besides this. and make sure they all know you were by yourself fro mthe start in that game, just like i was here. you deserve to win this game, and this will help show what a great player yo uare and that you DID NOT NEED sierra to get here, to the finals. Hummm excuse me Sierra but this question was addressed to me and NOT to you! I did great in my first game and it wad loads of fun! I came second in that game, but to be here on forumsnet is incredible and to be given a second chance is amazing! Yes, I was by myself from the start of that game. I didn’t know anyone or how to play. Haha I even remember that I didn’t know where to post my confessional… so I posted it in a pm to the host! But I made friends and an alliance in that game. In this game I did not need Sierra to get me to where I am now in this game, and I am positive I got here on my own! In my last game, many people thought that me and Sierra were the same person, because Sierra played as Paloma from the previous season (Gabon X Series) and because we live fairly close… it appeared that we had the same ID address. Obviously we are two different people! 4. jenny, it's obvious to me that you were the outcast of the alliance with jessie and sierra, if there was an outcast. they've made this clear themselves at this final tribal council. you ALWAYS knew you were the outcast, and you went with them anyway, because you know you are better than both of them, and you deserve this win a lot more, correct? I was defiantly the outcast in this alliance. Jessie and Sierra are tight! Everyone saw that from the beginning! I went with them because they were my friends from the start and I didn’t want to backstab them cause I gave them my word. Everyone has their good and bad qualities… that’s all I am going to say! 5. will you committ to playing another game with me, at some point in the future, as you've said you would? i want to know because i desperately wanted to go to the finals with you and i would LOVE it if i could get another chance. lol you make it sound like I am officially writing it on paper and giving it to you. But yes I would love to play another game with you! So, whoever is in that game… I give you my advice now and watch out! 6. jessie had told me, when she wanted to quit, that if she were to make the end she stil lwouldn't want to win and would probably want sierra to win. did you also know she'd be trying to help out sierra at the final tribal, and still knew you could beat them because you did that good this whole game? Going into this final tribal council I didn’t know that Jessie would be helping Sierra out. But friends do help friends- which is good! And Jessie told me that she didn’t mind who would win out of us two. But Sierra did tell me that Jessie is on her side and wants her to win. So I was aware of that- especially now that I can clearly see that in this tribal council! 7. jenny... you had such a huge impact on me. my meeting you has helped me more in the last few months than anything else could have ever helped me. i was soooooo depressed, and admittedly i still am, but because of your push in the right direction i am finally starting to make the changes necessary to my life. how you could find a way to do this GREAT deed for me while still playing a game AGAINST me is... amazing. it is amazing. my question to you is... very simply... i AM an annoying person. do i annoy you? Thanks Mookie! No, you don’t annoy me. Ever since I got to know you and that we became friends, you really don’t bother me that much. And I am sorry for ever going to Jessie and complaining to her about you! Lol apparently she felt the same way!
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Post by Jenny Guzon Bae on May 22, 2009 4:10:08 GMT -5
Wow, the F word! lol. I am sad at how FORUMSNET Survivor has degraded into a classless game. Whatever happened to pure strategery? My vote WAS decided, but when I skimmed answers my eye caught something. I'll try to read all the posts here to see if I will change my vote. Peace. Peace. Peace. Goodluck on your decision Ian!
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Post by Jenny Guzon Bae on May 22, 2009 4:33:01 GMT -5
TO SUSIE: What would you do with the million dollars if this was an actual season of Survivor? I would donate money to the cancer research, as it is really common nowadays and I would love to see my mum be fully cured from cancer and I want to help them find new ways to create a cure for future generations to come. I would also use the money to pay for my university course of science and biochemistry next year and go to Rome to visit my family and friends. I would visit Kenny in Hong Kong because I would love to go back there one day! I would take Mookie sky-diving! I would take Ace on a hot-air balloon date! I would take Bobby to Australia and go to the park and see the kangaroos! I would take Cindy and Susie shopping and buy them a new wardrobe full of their favorite clothes! I would take Ian to the beach and have a bonfire, and sit around with toasted marshmallows and listen to his jokes all night long! And I would invite all you guys (including Sierra and Jessie) to my 18th birthday partay!
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Post by Jenny Guzon Bae on May 22, 2009 4:33:42 GMT -5
Jessie, Sierra and myself are an alliance and I always felt as the outcast of the group as I felt we hardly ever talked strategy. So no wonder I went off and did my own things- that shows my independent side and that I was capable of making it here myself. I believe that I never got a vote against me and that Sierra and Jessie got many votes from people. I have been confronted many times in the game from others asking ‘the vote is Sierra right?’ or ‘let’s vote out Jessie’, but I simply ignored this because I stood by you guys and wanted to be loyal to our alliance. I protected you two and played the game at the same time. And to think that you guys were going to vote me out… that is the most selfish and ignorant thing I have ever heard! It would have been a good move to make and would have got a lot of credit out of it. But it never happened! So stop bringing it up and stop wishing that you could have voted me out! So much for staying together as an alliance. I know we are meant to be battling it out at this tribal council, I can see that! But dissing your friends is not going to get you anywhere. I only said things to Sierra to prove my point and to protect myself for all this shit and lies that have been talked about. I hope the jury votes on who played the better game, as I believe all jury members have asked their questions- THIS IS MY CLOSING STATEMENT! I loved playing with all of you and I hope you make the right decision. Love Jenny xoxo
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Post by Sierra Reed on May 22, 2009 4:49:49 GMT -5
Yeah is anyone else wanting to ask some last questions or should we post our closing statements?
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Post by Ken Hoang on May 22, 2009 10:44:30 GMT -5
On a side note, my internet connection is very bad at the moment, and I will have extremely limited internet time I think I should be able to get the connection back by Wednesday, I hope this won't delay stuff too much.
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Jessie Camacho
Motuhara Tribe
Sierra might be a bitch, but she is my bitch <333
Posts: 250
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Post by Jessie Camacho on May 22, 2009 12:55:34 GMT -5
So you're trying to get Sierra the win, then? I don't know what you are talking about Mookie, I don't care if Sierra or Jenny win, they both played amazing games and both deserve it, I was just stating my opinion that I feel Sierra played a better game, if the jury wants to see it as me trying to make Sierra win, then so be it. I'm just giving my opinion since I played with both of them and schemed with both of them the whole game, I think I'll know better than anyone who has played a better game since I communcated with both about every vote and I just want both of them to have an equal chance at winning. This is not a contest about who hurt the least feelings, it's a game about who managed to outwit, outplay and outlast the others.
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Jessie Camacho
Motuhara Tribe
Sierra might be a bitch, but she is my bitch <333
Posts: 250
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Post by Jessie Camacho on May 22, 2009 13:05:53 GMT -5
Jessie: You were labeled as an annoying, backstabbing, untrustworthy quitter who can’t hold alliances and deals up. Betrayal, lies; I can still tolerate that, but quitting is just so unforgivable and weak. You wanted to quit because you were “sick of all the drama”. Has it ever occurred to you that YOU were the reason behind the drama? In an answer you gave to Mookie’s question, you said, “Well, at the begining it was so you four could be the Final 4, I actualyl said at F5, I never intended to get anything lower than F6, had Kenny been around though, it would have been F6.” What does that mean? And you should NEVER say, “I don’t want to win” to answer any question like you did with Mookie’s. Well, Kénny, I don't to win, that's true, I have played this game but I didn't play it to the best of my hability and thus I don't think I deserve to win, if you want me to win then thanks and I'll appreciate it, but I've always been someone who likes to reward the best player with the win even if they were assholes and I am not the best player in this Final 3 so I think I can say in Mookie's question that I don't want to win, well... maybe I phrased it wrong, I do want to win, but I don't think I deserve it. Either way, what that means is that had you been at the Final 6 with us like we intended I would have probably considered laying my torch at F6 and not 5 like I said I would for Mookie/Ace/Jenny/Sierra. Hope that makes sense. Well, I am genuinly sorry that I voted you out, you were an amazing ally and you were super nice but I had a stronger deal and a stronger bond with Sierra and Jenny. And about quitting, I wasn't even considering quitting at that point of time, I considered quitting until we merged and you weren't around by then. And the idol you had, you didn't have it anymore, I believe I stole it from you the time I went to Exile with something I got.
Yes I have played, but I'm confident you don't know who I am, I mean the last times I've played I have played a good solid game but it was much more in character and I didn't backstab as much. You'll be surprised to find out who I am to be honest, that is if you are who I think you are. And if I have to guess who you are refering to I'll say either Jason or JP but I'm sure you are one of them so
I'll answer the other part in a separate post cause the power is flickering and I don't want to loose my answers.
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Jessie Camacho
Motuhara Tribe
Sierra might be a bitch, but she is my bitch <333
Posts: 250
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Post by Jessie Camacho on May 22, 2009 13:25:25 GMT -5
Well after voting out everyone from the other tribe, damn I can't remember the name! it was down to us five who had a deal to make it that far which was amazing amazing since normally alliances don't last that long together. Then I said I was going to quit because the game meant a lot more to this folks than it did to me, I wanted them to keep enjoying myself because through out the last few rounds I was so tired of everything that was going on to the extent where I would avoid the site and would rather not check. Of course everyone kept drilling me and wanting to talk game on AIM or MSN which really really annoyed me. I didn't say anything though, but I tried to stray the conversations away. Either way when I announced I wanted to quit everyone came to me individually and told me not to, some people even begged not to do it and even Brooke did. I felt bad about Brooke since I was ruining her game, along with the fact everyone had asked me to stay I decided to stay. However Mookie was always telling me what an amazing person I was for quitting for them and like it was so nice of me and how much he appreciated it and all that type of things which really bugged me because I wasn't doing it to have everyone adore me but because I was tired and I didn't want to take away their spots, not because I wanted praise, for me it was a double faced thing since Mookie told me how amazing I was to quit and then he said he didn't want me to quit so I was confussed, either way, he managed to annoy the heck out of me with this since he kept bringing it up when I had made my decision so I decided "Heck no, I ain't letting this guy outlast me because he is the single most annoying person I know and he doesn't deserve to win" he had also painted me as a saint and said how much better I was than him and how low he was because he admitted had lied, twisted stories, spread rumours and a lot of things I don't respect in a game to surge ahead so I decided that he could not be the winner. Either way, after that he won immunity so I had to sadly vote Ace off who I felt deserved better, when I told Ace he was going he asked me to quit again which offended me to no extent because he had been one of the main people to ask me not to beg. So there went an argument and the whole drama about Ace quitting and not accepting being voted out. Next round we had F4 immunity challenge, now, I have always been impatient and in challenges I always scan through instructions to get the most important pieces of information which sometimes makes me screw up, it's something I need to work on because it happens often, sadly enough. So I did the challenge taking my time so I could send the answers to Jenny and Sierra so they could soar through it and Mookie could be voted out, however I had missed to read that was against the rules. Next thing that happened was Brooke came to me and told me Mookie had accused me of cheating at the challenge which I found weird since I didn't think that was cheating, me and Brooke talked and we agreed she will do a new challenge and I wouldn't be able to aprticipate, please note felt horrible about ruining a challenge which I felt was amazing. At the same time though, I was pissed at Mookie for being such a jackass and accusing me without asking me first or anything, he was right, yes but I felt humilliated that he would just assume I did. So I comfronted him, then he cheated by giving his password to Jenny and I felt the need to rub it in since he had been such an asshole about my cheating and kept bringing it up, so I started being an ass and just told him how he was not better than me since he had cheated too, he gave me this ridiculous speech about him not knowing as if I had known I was cheating and then he even dared to tell me not to help the girls with the new challenge. That crossed the line, I had appologized about it to everyone and I just really decided then how much I disliked Mookie for being such an idiot to me, appart from the fact that Jenny and Sierra both had told me Mookie was annoying them and being kind of stalkery to both and I mean, it's okay if you like someone but when they ask you to stop you have to stop, I don't care who you are. So yes, I did tell Mookie to stop stalking the girls but that was after they told me they wanted him to, I wouldn't meddle in a relationship if they don't ask me for help first, that's not me. Just for the record btw, I just remember my original plan was being voted out by them at F5 but everyone refused to vote me out so I turned the plan into me quitting. The rest is comming
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Jessie Camacho
Motuhara Tribe
Sierra might be a bitch, but she is my bitch <333
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Post by Jessie Camacho on May 22, 2009 13:28:40 GMT -5
Hm... I guess you could compare it to Sugar. Since I did play a good game but I never really cared if I won or not, well I do care but like I don't feel I deserve it, that might be the difference. But I played good strategically, I played good socially and I earned my spot here, I wasn't playing to win but to help others win like Sugar was playing for Matty and Bob.
Yes.
Thanks Kenny, hope we can be friends after the game. For real.
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Jessie Camacho
Motuhara Tribe
Sierra might be a bitch, but she is my bitch <333
Posts: 250
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Post by Jessie Camacho on May 22, 2009 13:32:19 GMT -5
Oh my, so many long responses, I will have to re-read those because I kind of skimmed through it lol... but congrats on getting to the final 3 My question to all 3 of you is, What would you do with the million dollars if this was an actual season of Survivor? Good luck I have said if I went into the show and I won I'll give around half the money to the kids in Africa who need it more than me, the rest I will use it to help my friends, my family and to pay the only carreer I'm remotely interested in and which I can't afford. If I went into the real survivor I would go in for the experience and just to play the game, winning will only be a plus.
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Post by Mookie Lee on May 22, 2009 13:33:17 GMT -5
Im not even going to address you Jenny. Because you took this to a public place when it is not necessary. And not in the true game of sportsman ship, me and Jessie have told nothing but the truth and given you credit for your gameplan, but it just seems your constant lies splurge out even more. Hopefully people can see that you are fraudulent as fuck. Whatever, you can’t even sort out your real life problems anyway! And you don’t have to swear about it either! Sierra I am not lying, so I don’t know what you are talking about. I am just showing my point of view to the jury. Yeah Sierra. Just keep throwing your "real life friend" under the bus in order to get votes in a stupid survivor game. Way to show your true colors. How dare you ever blame your problems with Jenny on me at all.
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Jessie Camacho
Motuhara Tribe
Sierra might be a bitch, but she is my bitch <333
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Post by Jessie Camacho on May 22, 2009 13:33:24 GMT -5
Wow, the F word! lol. I am sad at how FORUMSNET Survivor has degraded into a classless game. Whatever happened to pure strategery? My vote WAS decided, but when I skimmed answers my eye caught something. I'll try to read all the posts here to see if I will change my vote. Peace. Peace. Peace. Good luck with your decision Ian. I am curious to find out who you are since you said some pretty harsh things about me, good luck regardless
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